"The Elysian Park Museum of Art" proposes a re-considering of the 600 acre Elysian Park, located adjacent to downtown Los Angeles, as a museum space. This class would be a workshop in which each participant curates an exhibition (installation, performance, action, etc) in the park. Special consideration is made to the ecology of the park itself, the diverse ways in which it is already used, what's right with the museums we already have, what's wrong with them, what can be done better, what is a museum, what is a park, etc. The class structure would include a schedule of guest speakers from existing museum institutions, as well as a list of texts for reading and discussion that will help illuminate some of the above considerations. could meet over several sessions or semi-regularly in an ongoing way.
- Dates
- October 4, 2009 at 12:00pm
November 1, 2009 at 12:00pm
December 6, 2009 at 12:00pm
January 10, 2010 at 12:00pm
February 7, 2010 at 12:00pm
March 7, 2010 at 12:00pm - Location
- The Public School & Elysian Park
- Facilitator
- Luke Fischbeck & Paul Pescador
- Limit
- 15
- Fee
- $30 for all 6 sessions or $5 bucks a class
- Other information





Comment
JUST TO CLARIFY
we will be CONTINUING TO MEET through the summer and beyond as we present our projects and determine the life of the museum post-public school class... the next meeting is APRIL 4th at 12 noon, we will be meeting by the grace e simons lodge to view an installation nearby by amy howden-chapman.
this meeting is open to the public, and anyone who is interested in taking part in the further life of the museum is welcome to stop by...
hope to see you...!!
9 Mar 2010 2:35PM
if you get a chance, check out the hong kong community museum project:
http://hkcmp.org/cmp/
doing something similar to epmoa in hong kong... nice to see how they've identified their goals in a slightly different way, but we could definitely learn from some of the questions they are asking (and answering!)
this afternoon at 6 pm east coast time they'll be on skype if anyone is interested in listening in / joining in the public chat....
http://bit.ly/dcMMTq
9 Mar 2010 2:27PM
this sunday is our last officially-scheduled meeting through the public school, although, as we agreed, we will continue to meet for the presentation of people's projects at least through april... so if you're around, it would be great to see everybody and get a good idea of where this project is headed post-class... yes!
we will plan to meet from 12-2 pm at the marian harlow garden at the northwest corner of the park, marked on our google map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=1111621729910000...
there is one text i'd like to get a chance to discuss, this history of the founding of los angeles MOCA:
http://a.aaaarg.org/text/9506/museum-contemporary-art-los-angeles-accoun...
ALSO cindy will you be bringing postcards for us to send out?
ALSO one big thing coming up is that we will start working with LACE (http://www.welcometolace.org/)... at the moment the idea is to have them start actively participating in sponsoring / promoting / curating events with us through the summer, and then we install something in their space and create a condensed program of things to happen both in the park and at LACE for the month of october... it would be amazing if we can come up with some ideas of how we'd want the class / projects to be represented in this, and also see who among us wants to stay on with the project and coordinate things with them... official representatives!
ok...
see you soon ! ! !
luke
4 Mar 2010 12:48PM
i'm thinking we should meet today at the gardens near the top of park drive, in the northwest corner of the park... easy parking / walking in from park drive, and several interesting walking directions we can take from there if we choose.
i've marked it on the epmoa google map as "gardens" (although i know they do have a proper name, we'll find out what it is in a second!):
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=1111621729910000...
12-2 pm... hope to see you there!
best
luke
ps my phone number again, in case you are lost: 401 499 6935
7 Feb 2010 3:19AM
• we will be meeting this sunday january 17th from 12-2 pm at the picnic area off of solano canyon drive -- see the map for the location marked "picnic area":
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=1111621729910000...
• at the meeting, anyone who has gotten short shrift on the presentations of their projects-in-progress thus far will be given a sympathetic ear. we will then go for a walk and try to find a park-using public...!
• readings we will be happy to discuss with eachother while we walk are here:
charles garoian "performing the museum" http://a.aaaarg.org/text/3834/performing-museum
william cronon "the trouble with wilderness" http://a.aaaarg.org/text/3505/trouble-wilderness-or-getting-back-wrong-n...
• i've set up a calendar to keep track of anything related to the museum programming... i'll send you all invitations in a second so you can add to it... a publicly viewable version will live here: http://www.epmoa.org/calendar
• there's a thought to add at least one more meeting after march... as a makeup for scrambled january, but also just to see some of these projects through to the end, and leave things in an open way to encourage a continued life of the museum... thoughts?
• if you CANNOT make it this sunday it's no big deal... understandable. the next regularly scheduled meeting is FEBRUARY 7th... let's plan on getting together in as much force as we can muster then.
14 Jan 2010 7:48PM
Hi Group
I wanted to apologize for the late message, but I think because of the holidays and getting back in the swing of things we are going to post-pone tomorrow's meeting till next Sunday the 17th.
We will be meeting at the picnic areas (elysian fields). We will spend much of the meeting updating one another on our projects and finishing going over proposals. If you any visuals that you have for your projects, bring them to show the group.
We will post articles on aaaarg in the next few days, as well as parking directions.
I look forward to seeing everyone next week.
Best
Paul
9 Jan 2010 3:39PM
the january meeting of this class has been rescheduled for JANUARY 10th 12-2 pm at a to-be-determined location inside elysian park. all other class meetings will take place at their scheduled times.
this notice is posted here on the class page as a formality... to follow all of the discussions for this class please visit / join our google group: http://groups.google.com/group/epmoa
thanks!!
14 Dec 2009 2:28AM
i mean this one, the visible one, not the invisible one:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=1111621729910000...
2 Dec 2009 8:15PM
aaaaaah these links! try this one for the epmoa map:
2 Dec 2009 8:15PM
we will be meeting this sunday december 6th from 12-2 pm in the park.
the location we were thinking about is the angels' point sculpture
pavilion on the ridge to the east of where we were last time... i've
marked it on the google map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=1111621729910...
...let me know if there's any confusion about finding it...!
the plan for the meeting is for each of us to prepare a brief
presentation / proposal on our projects... this can be as vague or as
specific as you like, with the intention being that we can start, as a
group, filling in a schedule for the next couple of months, as well as
to begin tracking down whatever resources we'll be needing to realize
these things.
ideally we'll be able to start having events / presentations of
projects beginning in january and extending through march... things
can take place outside of the first sundays if necessary... so maybe
start thinking about what kind of timeframe is best.
the possibility of changing the early january meeting to later in the
month was brought up at our last meeting... does anyone have any
preference on this?
there are two suggested readings that we will be referring to in
discussion:
"the monumental gift" by christopher michlig (http://a.aaaarg.org/text/
6770/monumental-gift)
"the uses of neighborhood parks" by jane jacobs (http://a.aaaarg.org/
text/6824/uses-neighborhood-parks)
we are continuing to add to the issue "the elysian park museum of art"
on aaaarg.org, and you are encouraged to do so as well... if there are
any readings you think would be good for us to look at as a group feel
free to suggest them!!
after going over everyone's project ideas, we'll take a walk to try to
find detritus from two performances that took place in the past month
under the auspices of the epmoa, independently of our efforts...
mysteries!!!
2 Dec 2009 8:13PM
How did I miss this one...! Is attending the 3rd meeting in December too late to catch up with y'all? If so, sad for me, but would love to see some kind of presentation at the end on what comes out of this...
13 Nov 2009 3:59PM
here is a picture of the entrance to the old nature trail, to the left if you are facing grace e. simons lodge from elysian park drive, where we will be meeting today: http://bit.ly/1HWxY1.
there's also a link to the google maps location in one of the comments below...
good luck!
1 Nov 2009 1:59AM
oh crap the links to the readings got lost in the formatting. here they are again:
http://a.aaaarg.org/text/1083/heterotopias-and-history-spaces
http://a.aaaarg.org/text/5130/notes-recent-arrival-extracts
http://a.aaaarg.org/text/2323/claiming-contingent-space
28 Oct 2009 9:51PM
hi everybody...
some ideas for readings to discuss on sunday:
Georges Teyssot "Heterotopias and the History of Spaces"
Lucy Lippard "Notes From A Recent Arrival"
Liam Gillick "Claiming Contingent Space"
...hopefully everyone has a chance to become a little familiar with each one because they have such different tones!
ya... we'll talk about it.
L
also, i'm working on building up the reading list here: http://a.aaaarg.org/issue/4274/elysian-park-museum-art please feel free to add to it, and if you have something in particular you'd like to bring to discussion, let's do it.... does anyone have any good readings about wunderkammern ? ? ? ? ?
28 Oct 2009 9:50PM
Hi Class
Our next class class will be on Nov. 1. We will be meeting near the Old Nature Trail near Grace. E. Simon's lodge. NOT at Telic!
We are asking each student to bring in a object/artifact, suggestion for an action, article, or study on the Elysian Park. This information will be presented to the group in class, as a means to have everyone become more comfortable presenting to one another and to start to develop a micro-musuem of images and objects that can be placed in the website.
If you missed the first class then we will definitely fill you in.
The readings will posted shortly.
Paul
27 Oct 2009 3:55PM
to all who couldn't make the first class, please come join us starting november 1st, yes. you can pick up. i believe the plan at the moment is to meet at the nature interpretation trail (http://bit.ly/2ZeEzT).
21 Oct 2009 8:00PM
hey, i just read about the class. if i can come november 1st, can i just show up with my $5 and see what's going on? do i meet at the public school or the park?
thanks, claire. (dearface@gmail.com)
20 Oct 2009 8:19PM
Hi Guys,
Can I still sign up and attend this class even tho I missed the first meeting?
Megan
20 Oct 2009 3:23PM
Hmm, I must have been at the wrong space. I didn't see a sign though. I'll follow the new readings and try again next month.
Thanks!
Cindy
7 Oct 2009 10:26AM
Hi, I just got a newsletter from the Public School, and it made it seem like this class starts NEXT sunday, but I take it that you have already had a meeting? Anyway, I'm interested if its not too late!
Thanks,
India
6 Oct 2009 3:18PM
hi Cindy,
Not sure where you were. The Public School is at 951 Chung King Road as mentioned above and there was a sign at the old space.
We can get you caught up though!
-c
4 Oct 2009 4:40PM
I just waited outside PS, but didn't see anyone. Was there a change in the time or location of the meeting?
4 Oct 2009 2:22PM
I just waited outside PS, but didn't see anyone. Was there a change in the time or location of the meeting?
4 Oct 2009 2:22PM
Just a reminder that the first meeting of the EPMOA will be tmr @ noon @ TPS (951 Chung King Road). See you all there!
-c
3 Oct 2009 12:10PM
The two readings for the first session have been posted to AAAARG: http://la.thepublicschool.org/node/1411/aaaarg
28 Sep 2009 11:43AM
The Elysian Park Museum of Art class has been scheduled!
The first meeting will take place at The Public School on October 4th at noon. The class will meet once a month at TPS and/or the park on or around the first Sunday of each month for 6 months! The class fee is $30 for all 6 sessions or you can pay $5 per class. The class limit is 15 so please be sure to register (by paying for the class) or letting me know if you are a member.
Paul & Luke will followup soon with more info.
-c
5 Sep 2009 4:40PM
http://www.epmoa.org
21 Jul 2009 4:31PM
This sounds really interesting. I hope it happens.
As ever, Robert
17 Jul 2009 6:14PM
Yes! Lots of curatorial tangents with this one...
17 Jul 2009 12:44PM
yes yes. EPMOA. let's get this going.
16 Jul 2009 1:40PM