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Yay! So glad you've proposed this!

I would urge one reading, an essay even, that counters Habermas ...

Warner often, if not always, counters Habermassian conceptions of the public sphere (Warner's notion of "counterpublics" for example). I was hoping we might read a few chapters from his book "Publics and Counterpublics" to examine these ideas in further detail, especially as they relate to and intersect with queer theory...

This class has been scheduled!

I originally intended to conduct a close reading of Michael Warner, but it seems people are also interested in a broader discussion about the public sphere, "publicness," etc. So instead I think we'll begin with a text by Habermas, one by Rorty [Chandler- did you get your hands on that one Spivak referenced?], then one by Nancy Fraser, and probably two or three by Warner. That being said, I'm obviously still in the process of selecting readings so any suggestions are welcome!

I like the idea of reading one book (specifically Warner), and doing a close read with supplemental but as non-required readings -- perhaps additional non-required readings could include Warner's _The Trouble with Normal_ and Delany's _Times Square Red, Times Square Blue_ in order to surface the racial and queer sexualization of space. That is my two cents.
-Robert

indeed i did. i'm going to get to scanning it shortly. This class sounds great and i'm happy with any direction, there are so so very many of course. If you go the supplemental non-required reading route, Marx's "On the Jewish Question" could be interesting. Another perhaps mad idea is to have different people in the class each read a different supplemental reading and try to bring insights from those readings to the discussion.

two more cents for ya!

i like chandler's idea a lot. so now we are at 6 cents.

I'd be excited to look at Warner -- perhaps the bulk of Publics and Counterpublics -- and any other scanned readings, especially if the links work :). Great looking course! - Julie

Mia ... what is your email address?

Yes, Chandler's idea sounds like fun!

The Warner texts I'd like to suggest are Chapters 1 and 2 in "Publics and Counterpublics," as well as the Introduction. The chapters are titled, respectively, "Public and Private," and "Publics and Counterpublics." I would also like to read at least one other Warner text (either chapter 3 or 5, or perhaps an excerpt from his other book "The Trouble with Normal").

So perhaps we can begin with a close reading of Warner in the first and second class meetings, then everyone can select one or two non-required texts of their own for the final meeting?

PS. julie- it's mia.locks@gmail.com

so is the reading for the first class as follows:
The Warner texts I'd like to suggest are Chapters 1 and 2 in "Publics and Counterpublics," as well as the Introduction.

Yes, two of the assigned readings for the first class meeting are up on aaaarg. They will be the Introduction and Public and Private. I think it makes more sense to save "Publics and Counterpublics" for the second meeting, but I will put a third text up tomorrow!

sorry proper link to Public and Private

hi all,

i've noticed that the google checkout button still isn't showing up and wanted to let you all know that i'm working on this, and that it should be up later today if you're interested in prepaying for the course. that said, i'd suggest prepayment, since the course limit is 15 people and many more than that have committed to attending on the facebook page (though of course you never know about such things:).

anyway, working on this! thanks for your patience!

sarah

HI. HOw about a chapter from Grant Kester's book: Conversation Pieces. I would suggest Community and Communicability. So far the list is pretty much on the same page. This could help vary the discussion.

Google Checkout button visible and functioning! Just wanted to let you all know:)

I'll be there ...
-Robert

Good suggestion to discuss Grant Kester. I am pretty intrigued by Chandler's idea of inviting people to select a text of their own for the second and/or third class to discuss in relation to Warner. So perhaps you could bring this one to the table, bkelleyjr? (is it Bill?) Are there more suggestions that other people are thinking about?

Also, I've posted "Publics and Counterpublics" on aaarg and, while it's a bit long, I'd like to add it to the assigned reading (the full version) for the first class. I was going to hold off on it until the second class, but I think it makes more sense to just delve into Warner as much as possible in the first class so that we can have time to discuss other texts later.

just to clarify, the assigned readings for the first course session are the following parts of michael warner's "publics and counterpublics:"

the introduction
"public and private"
"publics and counterpublics"

mia, can you quickly clarify the difference between the abridged and full versions of "publics and counterpublics" posted to aaaarg? just want to make sure we're all reading what we should be reading!

for clarity's sake, i've dumped the readings for session #1 into an aaaarg issue entitled "public: adjective or noun?": http://a.aaaarg.org/issue/3697/public-adjective-or-noun. these readings can also be found in the "public/private" aaaarg issue (http://a.aaaarg.org/issue/3562/publicprivate), which contains a broader selection of readings related to the course but not directly assigned...

Sorry for the confusion. Yes, the assigned readings are (as Sarah posted earlier): Intro, Public & Private, and Publics & Counterpublics. [The abridged version was published in 2002 in Public Culture before the full version came out in his book in 2005. I posted it initially because it was easier but then I ended up scanning the full one.]

Sorry about posting extra readings (i get a little over-excited sometimes) I only did that in case people wanted to read other related texts (like the Fraser "Re-thinking the Public Sphere," which Warner draws from in his discussion of counterpublics). By the way, if anyone has texts that they would like to add to the "public/private" issue on aaaarg, please feel free...

I will make sure to post only assigned readings to the "public: adjective or noun" issue from now on.

See you all Sunday!

Thank you to all for coming on Sunday and for the lively discussion. I will be posting next week's readings by tomorrow so please check back!

Grant Kester's "Collaboration, Art, and Subculture" is now up on aaaarg.

I'm only assigning this one text for next week's class because I think there are plenty of avenues to discuss between Kester and Warner. (If you're DYING for more to read then click here)

See you on Sunday.

PLEASE NOTE
Our third (and final) class will take place at The Public School's NEW LOCATION: 951 Chung King Road. We're going to be talking about The Public School itself (hopefully in relation to the Warner and Kester texts, but also in terms of pedagogy, theory/practice, and whatever else comes up).

The only assigned reading is Jan Verwoert's short essay "Lessons in Modesty - The Open Academy: A Model", which is already up on aaaarg.

Even if you haven't attended the previous two sessions, please feel free and welcome to come to this class. I'm looking forward to a self-reflexive discussion about TPS in its new (street-level!) space.

hi publics,

there is as a class coming up that I think will continue the conversation we had in Mia's course. It is only a one day affair so please try and make it!

http://la.thepublicschool.org/class/1593

-c